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On September 15, 1997 the FDA asked American Home Products (now Wyeth), the manufacturer or fenfluramine (Pondimin) and dexfenfluramine (Redux) to voluntarily remove these drugs from the market. These anti-obesity drugs were prescribed by themselves or in combination with phentermine for weight loss. "Fen-Phen" refers to the use in combination of fenfluramine and phentermine.

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#1 2008-01-23 11:15:43

nugget
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CAP 15

Has anyone heard what's happening with the CAP 15 motion?

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#2 2008-01-24 11:17:53

nugget
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Re: CAP 15

131 views and no one can answer anything about the CAP 15 and the original settlement?

As I have said before, this site has become the 7th site.

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#3 2008-01-24 18:04:04

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

Maybe nobody is answering because nobody knows anything. The motion was filed and then that's the last I've heard about it.

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#4 2008-04-16 21:12:51

the4runner
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Re: CAP 15

Can anyone answer some questions I have since my DDR # was not on the pacer report that was just signed by the judge?

     I have previously opted out of the seventh.  My lawyer contacted me in February and stated that there was a CAP 15 and he felt in order for me to receive anything (since I have been fighting this since 2001) would be to opt into this. He said we would have to act fast because Wyeth might try to back out of this as well.  I told him to opt me in. So would I be considered part of this action that was approved? He said it was part of the seven but that I would only be eligible for 70% of the original matrix.  Any in site you might be able to offer I would truly appreciate. Thanks and congratulation on you part of the settlement its about time. I am truly happy for those "deserving" people that are truly entilted to be somewhat compensated for there damaged health. God bless and may you live a long and healthy life under the circumstances of these drugs.

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#5 2008-04-17 04:37:00

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

You said that you had opted out of the 7th. If indeed that's so, you shouldn't expect to see your DDR# in that recent motion that was signed by the Judge. That motion is about paying people who DID NOT opt out of the 7th. 

CAP 15 is an option presented to those who have failed the Trust audit in the original settlement and are waiting for their claims to go through the show cause process. The show cause process is one in which the court makes a determination as to whether or not someone's claim was wrongfully denied in the audit process. So, if your attorney convinced you that you should opt for CAP 15, that means that your claim must have already failed to pass an original trust audit. 

Cap 15 offered another audit/review using the 7th amendment review process rather than the original trust audit process. Those who opted to be included in CAP 15, (which it sounds like you did) and then happen to pass the 7th review will be paid only 70% of what that claim would have gotten had it passed the original trust audit or prevailed in the show cause process.  Those claims that opted to be included in the CAP 15, whether or not they pass another claim review, would no longer be part of the original trust and would thereafter be Category Two claimants in the 7th amendment.

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#6 2008-04-25 19:11:59

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Re: CAP 15

I heard back from my lawyers office today on the CAP 15 sai we should hear on the results by July 28th 2008

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#7 2008-05-04 10:11:08

Harold Cave
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Re: CAP 15

On 4/14/08 thw4runner posted the following

Can anyone answer some questions I have since my DDR # was not on the pacer report that was just signed by the judge?

I have a Pacer account. My question is where do i find my wife's DDR# on the Pacer report. In other words what page and how to I get to the report on Pacer that detailes the  amounts?

Nugget gave me the amounts but was short on the details regarding how to locate the payout amounts on the Pacer website. i tried e-mailing Nugget but his e-mail address seems to no longer be valis.

Any help you or anyone else could be will be greatly appreciated.

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#8 2008-05-04 14:10:33

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

HAROLD,
I answered your PM.

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#9 2008-05-05 04:46:09

Harold Cave
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Re: CAP 15

Thanks Marie. I have not gotten any e-mail as of this morning. I;ll check again this afternoon. It should be e-mailed to me right? at the address in my profile when I open my account?

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#10 2008-05-05 05:27:43

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

Harold, in order to send you this stuff, I have to attach documents from my computer to an e-mail address. I don't think I can attach anything to the e-mail feature on this forum. Maybe there's a way and I just don't understand how to do it, but I don't see how. If you or someone else can explain how then I'll send them that way, but otherwise you'll need to provide me with an actual e-mail address to send it to or else I can't get it to you. Just PM me your e-mail address.

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#11 2008-05-05 14:46:58

Harold Cave
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Re: CAP 15

marie send the documents as attachments to teh following e-mail address hacave@verizon.net.

thanks,
harold and julia Cave

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#12 2008-05-05 15:05:39

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

I just sent them to you. Have never sent a bunch of documents in a compacted zip format before, so let me know if you didn't get them or can't open them.

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#13 2008-05-06 19:01:17

Harold Cave
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Re: CAP 15

Got them Marie. Thanks a thanks a bunch.

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#14 2008-08-11 11:52:26

the4runner
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Re: CAP 15

got final determination letter today on cap 15

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#15 2008-08-11 17:37:59

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

And??? What were your results? Did you pass?

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#16 2008-08-12 16:16:37

the4runner
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Re: CAP 15

Final determination FDA positive however not for Matrix but I just wanted it notated that indeed I do have damage and will be eligible till 2015 for the coverage now it is documented. If a certain lawyer (not mentioning any names) that is no longer part of a certain firm would have acted on my behalf I probably would have had a different outcome but I am just glad for me and my family that I will be getting off this roller coaster best of health and luck for all of those that remain

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#17 2008-08-12 17:31:57

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

4runner,
Because of having accepted the CAP 15 deal, you're now considered a categeroy two 7th amendment claimant. Didn't you realize that when you agreed to it?  Because of this, you no longer have until 2015 to file another claim -  that 12/2015 date is only for those with claims still in the original settlement.

Now you only have until either 12/31/2011 OR 15 years after the last date you took the drug, whichever is earlier, and you can never file a level I or II claim again. You can now only file again if it's a higher level claim (surgery etc).

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#18 2008-08-24 09:14:48

bill77
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Re: CAP 15

My wife opted out of 7th amendment & Cap 15, is in show cause. When will she either be approved or denied her claim.  She intends to fight to the finish as she has proven with 3 echos that she has moderate valve damage....Even AHP admitted to this by sending a letter stating she had moderate valve damage 6 yrs. ago....when does she get the final denial letter or approval on this 8 yr old claim...Can anyone give me an update...or at least what to expect from AHP Settlement Trust.....Thank you very much! bill 77

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#19 2008-08-26 03:20:13

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

There's no way of knowing how long it's going to be before the claim gets through show cause. No doubt the time was been shortened somewhat because CAP 15 removed a number of the claims waiting from the show cause line up, but it could still take a very long time.

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#20 2008-08-26 07:50:40

bill77
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Re: CAP 15

> Marie wrote:

> There's no way of knowing how long it's going to be before the claim gets through show cause. No doubt the time was been shortened somewhat because CAP 15 removed a number of the claims waiting from the show cause line up, but it could still take a very long time.

Thanks for your reply to my question, Marie......Would it speed up the process any to get an independent attorney,  rather than go along with the CC as has been the case so far... She has had to have a pacemaker installed five years ago, takes 8 different medications and was taken off Tikesyn after Drs. warned her of dangerous side effects.  Atrial Fibrillation has returned.... Auditors denial stated Tikesyn was a permanent fix and used that  as a reason to turn down her claim.  I appreciate any thoughts on this from you...as we are getting very tired of the run around given us about this claim.   She started taking Fen-Phen when she was 64 & is now 74.   Thanks for your input....God Bless...Bill77

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#21 2008-08-26 12:39:19

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

Bill, if you feel you need an attorney, then that's always an option. However, keep in mind that if you do that, then you're probably facing the forfeit of a significant amount of your wife's compensation money (assuming she wins show cause) to attorney fees -possibly as much as 40% in total or maybe even a bit more. As it stands now using only CC, it's only going to be about 6.4%. Remember, if you've got FDA+ damage documented on an echo done by early 2003 (sorry, can't remember the exact date), then you can always file another claim until 12/2015 and still get full compensation if this one doesn't work out in show cause. - that's assumng of course, that she has or will have by then another echo that will be found to qualify.

I'm assuming your wife's matrix claim is for a level II ??  If so, I don't really understand why the auditor would even bother to use the "permanent fix" excuse regarding the qualification of the atrial fib. In order to even use the a-fib as a complicating factor, your wife would have also needed to have an enlarged left atrium to go along with it.  But if she did indeed have that enlarged left atrium, then the a-fib issue would be a moot point as far as qualifying goes, since the atrium can stand alone as the only required complicating factor.  The a-fib, on the other hand, would require that association of an enlarged left atrium to qualify as a complicating factor.

So, did she have an enlarged left atrium on that echo which was audited and if so, did the auditor find that it qualified as such??

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#22 2008-08-28 16:58:12

bill77
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Re: CAP 15

Marie, thanks for your prompt reply...My wifes Echo report shows LV diastolic diameter: 4.7cm:  LV systolic diameter 2.3cm:
  RV diameter: 1.8cm; Aortic root diameter: 3.3cm; Intraventricular septal wall thickness: 1.1cm; LV posterior wall thickness: 1.0cm

Auditor also stated in audit that there was no atrial filbrillation because it had been corrected with an implanted pacemaker...Well, she did not need a pacemaker before Fen Phen, and leaves the impression that AHP is not responsible for the implant or the cost incurred, etc.  Also, I guess they are not responsible for ruining her health, or the many drugs she has to take daily, or her new disablity to live a normal life...Do you know of a ballpark figure for the show cause being finished?
Thanks for your input and precious time you have given to all of us who need help and advice in finding our way out of this trap.   Bill77

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#23 2008-08-30 16:27:17

Marie
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Re: CAP 15

Bill,
Those figures you posted don't say anything about the left atrium and what they do say looks like the left ventricle wouldn't qualify for a complicating factor.

And you're right - AHP/Wyeth isn't paying for pacemaker surgery. The only surgery they've taken responsibility for is valve repair/replacement...and then only under certain conditions.

Again, I really haven't a clue when your wife's claim might be finished with the show cause process. It could be any day, it could be months, it could be years. They don't seem to be in any hurry in getting them all wrapped up and over with.  At the time  CAP 15 was announced, they had something like 170 show cause claims that had already been reviewed and denied by a technical advisor - and as far as I know, all or most of those are just still sitting there in limbo waiting for an official denial from the court all these many months later.

Good luck to you. I'm sure this long wait has been horrible and I wish I had the information you're looking for, but I just don't. Sorry.

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#24 2008-10-06 09:32:04

mdl1203
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Re: CAP 15

Bill77

Thanks for your reply to my question, Marie......Would it speed up the process any to get an independent attorney,  rather than go along with the CC as has been the case so far... She has had to have a pacemaker installed five years ago, takes 8 different medications and was taken off Tikesyn after Drs. warned her of dangerous side effects.  Atrial Fibrillation has returned.... Auditors denial stated Tikesyn was a permanent fix and used that  as a reason to turn down her claim.  I appreciate any thoughts on this from you...as we are getting very tired of the run around given us about this claim.   She started taking Fen-Phen when she was 64 & is now 74.   Thanks for your input....God Bless...Bill77

Class counsel is not helping you in showcause, they might be able to give you a procedural answer or two but for the most part you are on your own, in all actuality class counsel will only intravene AGAINST YOU AND YOUR ARGUEMENT if it may lead to possibly tipping over their applecart

If you are relying on them to help you, you are in error.  Call class counsel and ask them directly what they will and wont, can and cant do for you in this stage of appeal...you will be unpleasantly surprised.  I have personally been down this road

sorry for the bad news, but the sooner you know the sooner you can make alternate plans.

also good luck with a private atty.  Most of the knowledgable ones have left the fenphen game.

I wish you and your wife well my friend

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#25 2008-11-18 08:05:08

bill77
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Re: CAP 15

Marie, talked to attorney, who said that in order to do anything for my wife, the Judge would have to get off the cases he is setting on (show cause) and either approve or disapprove before I needed to hire an attorney to re-submit a green form w/proof of moderate valve damage....so far she has not heard anything since returning the opt out of 15th amendment, and is still in show cause.   How long does this last? Christmas season us upon us and Judges don't work during the holidays....Help.

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