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#1 2003-10-22 16:59:42

Butterfly
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Effexor Withdrawal

I have been suffering with severe clinical depression for the last 7 years and am now trying to come off effexor.  I weaned myself off slowly even though I have only been taking this medication for 6 months as I have read all about the side effects.  I am only on day 2 and cannot function at all. I am so dizzy, crying most of the time and feel like death.  I am scared to go to sleep as this seems to be the time I get "explosions" in my head.  It doesn't last long but my whole body seems to shudder just as I would expect an electric shock to be and it scares me.  When you try to find out how long these symptoms last nobody will give you a straight answer - will somebody out there please give me some true facts.  Surely the pharmaceutical company who produces this horrendous medication should be MADE to take it off the market.  After 7 years of hell I feel let down by the so called experts, one of which in his wisdom told me I wasnt suffering with depression and was just "fed up" and brought me totally off all my medication in a week and then left the hospital leaving me totally high and dry.  After numerous hospital locums my psychiatrist put me on Effexor which I said I didnt want to go on due to the side effects but his answer to that was you either go on that medication or dont bother coming to see me - he wouldnt listen but then he is not the one suffering.  Sorry for going on so long but I am so angry with these so called experts and the pharmaceutical companies.  Can someone please give me some hope to carry on with these withdrawals.

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#2 2003-11-19 19:37:56

Quinn
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From: Gilbert, AZ
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

I have a great book that will give you all the insights on antidepressants.  Antidepressants are our world's nightmare!  Below is my Mom's story.   
1-800-280-0730

I just want to inform you of some critical information on antidepressants. 

Prozac is one of the antidepressant proving to be worse than LSD and cocaine, which are now illegal drugs.  #1 It is patented and manufactured by the same pharmaceutical company who gave us LSD, Eli Lilly.  #2 The advertising campaign and promotional push for the two drugs has been extremely similar.  #3 The target in the brain for both Prozac and LSD is the neurotransmitter, serotonin and both act as enhancers of serotonin, that is they both raise the level of serotonin.

I believe someday Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Halcion, Xanex, Luvox, Effexor, Anafranil, etc...will be illegal drugs, but there will be something else to follow it. 

Prozac was tested only 5-6 weeks before it was released to the public.  This drug was put on the market in record time.  Many physicians will admit that if you are among the first to use a new drug you are actually participating in the testing process for that drug.  They [Eli Lilly Pharmaceutical] give trips to Hawaii for prescribing Prozac! 

125,000 deaths will be attributed to prescription drug reactions this year-2001.

Arthur Egelman who was the FDA medical officer responsible for the antidepressant Parnate stated, "I deeply regret the prolongation of human suffering and the sacrifice in human life which will follow the resumption of marketing of this relatively ineffective drug."-1964

1947-CIA had a great interest in drugs for chemical warfare and mind-control in particular.  They wanted an even stronger drug other than scopolamine and liquid marijuana, turned to LSD.  Their goal was to find a chemical which would:  #1 cause a disruption in memory, #2 discredit individuals by producing aberrant behavior, #3, alter sexual patters, #4 elicit information from the person, #5 open one's mind to suggestion for mind control and #6 create addiction and dependence.  It has been reported all six of these results as reactions to the drug PROZAC.

1991-5 billion dollars was spent by the pharmaceutical industry on advertising alone!

An increase in cortisol produces brain damage, while 30mg of Prozac DOUBLES the level of cortisol.

READ IN DETAIL ABOUT ANTIDEPRESSANTS HOW THEY ARE AFFECTING OUR COUNTRY, OUR BODY, MIND AND SOULS.  IT IS CAUSING INNOCENT MOTHERS TO KILL THEIR KIDS.  DR. ANN TRACY HAS SERVED IN MANY OF THESE SUICIDE AND MURDER CASES.

BOOK- Prozac: Panacea or Pandora?- Our Serotonin Nightmare By:  Ann Blake Tracy
TAPE/CD - "Help I Can't Get Off My Antidepressants!"  detailing how to safely withdraw and including ideas on how to rebuild one's health after any psychiatric drug use.
order @ 1-800-280-0730

www.drugawareness.org

Below is my Mom's story.

I have taken anti-depressants for 15 years. I have been on Deseryl, Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, Wellbutrin, and finally Effixor. I met the author of "Prozac, Pandora, or Panacea?" Dr. Ann Blake Tracy, from Utah. I HIGHLY recommend this book to anyone on anti-depressants. It is like my bible!

I am in my third month of withdrawal from Effixor. I am on 150 MG. I opened up one of the capsules and it had 360 white crystals inside. The first month I took out 10 crystals all at once and I did pretty good. The second month I took out 10 more and It was a difficult month. I was very angry and agitated. The first week of the third month I took out only 2 more bringing the total to 22. So I am doing better by taking out only 2 more per week. It will take me about 2 years to get off of these "PILLS from HELL" Because of these anti-depressants I am now a diabetic, unable to sleep, have chronic fatigue syndrome, memory loss, no feelings except angry ones and the list goes on and on. Most beneficial in helping me to deal with depression is EXERCISING, EATING HEALTHY, TAKING DEEP BREATHS frequently throughout the day to help relieve stress and tension, and drinking alot of Chamomille Herb Tea.

Dr. Tracy and her book have saved my life!!! I was also introduced to RELIV--a powdered vitamin supplement that has also saved my life and I will take it for the rest of my life. If I can be of any help or support to anyone out there on anti-depressants please drop me an e-mail @nutz4swa@cox.net. I have made up my mind that I AM going to WIN this battle and so can you!!!!!!!

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#3 2003-11-21 13:55:00

newlife
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

I just left a new message string similar to what your issues are.  I, like you just got totally fed up with the "profession" and likewise weaned myself from effexor.  I was on it for 2 solid years with a 300mg a day dosage. 
Sugar, I won't lie and say it's easy.  I'm still reeling after 4 weeks of a "self induced" withdrawal.  The information (unsolicited from any manufacturer, etc....just plain fact sheets on the drug) states that withdrawal is very serious.  So just to go cold turkey, one would truly be risking potential health issues.  Believe me, I'm NOT any sort of doctor, etc.  I'm just a sufferer of the same issues you speak of.  I did something stupid and said I would sink or swim.  In four weeks I had stopped taking it.  Still dizzy, sick at the stomach...BUT please know, its subsiding. 
:cry: I know exactly what you are going through.  As I mentioned in my other post, I truly believe patients become "sick" with yet another illness when they step into the "psych-doctor" world.  Co-dependency.  We look to them for relief of our reeling emotions.  They pat us on the head, tell us basically that anything we have done "will be okay" shove yet another pill in our mouth, take our money and send us on our miserable way.
I have found the the BEST source for FACTUAL information on drugs is actually the posion control hotline!  YES!  Truly...please call them or a doctor that you trust and see if the headaches are actually part of "an illness" or withdrawals.  I did.  I called the posion control and asked them if withdrawal of effexor included sharp pains in my head when I stood up and diareaha..they confirmed both as withdrawal.  It was like a long awaited ray of hope.  Why?  It reassured me that what I was going through was NOT because of my true Illness AND I wasn't loosing my mind!!  Cause don't know about you, but when that started I began a mental internal battle with myself.  Should I be doing this...afterall hes the doctor, what if I only get worse, THEN the spiral starts.  PLEASE KNOW, what I went through while a very dark hour, paid off listening to MY OWN BODY and common sense.  Oh, and drink LOTS of water.  Much of this medication (especially timed released) will continue to absorb into your system for some time.  Yes, I will admit, I've have several suicide attempts AFTER my increase in effexor...Even after my "charcoal cocktails" at the ER, my toxic levels STILL continued to increase (I used the very pills prescribed as my method of demise).  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just remember to hang in there.  And NEVER be afraid to call 9-1-1.  Through all my attempts I have likewise found that the peramedics are MUCH more knowledgable than some doctors I've met.   
OH :oops: hope I didn't offend anyone with that statement, but my PERSONAL experience has shown me that.


Always remember the hardships we endure on this earth are rewarded 10 fold in heaven.

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#4 2003-11-22 15:22:43

Butterfly
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

It is now 1 month since coming off effexor and have now been told I am suffering with Bipolar Disorder.  I dont know if my manic episodes are due to withdrawal effects from Effexor or whether I was wrongly diagnosed 7 years ago.  The situation just seems to go on and on.  I am not getting the pains in my head anymore but I am going from one lot of symptoms to another.  I have never really had a temper, but now I am so angry, irritable, bad tempered and behaving so irrationally, I dont know what is worse being on effexor or being off it.  I seem to cry most of the time and feel thoroughly at the end of the line.  One of the quotes I have just read is "Hardships we endure on this earth are rewarded 10 fold in heaven" - if that is the case then heaven must be better than this.  Maybe I should have more "faith" because I am losing all my faith in medication and the medical profession.  What is the answer???

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#5 2003-11-22 16:08:21

newlife
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

[color=blue][/color][b]
Hey there!  It's me that sent that little quote.  And oh believe me, I am currently going through the same thing as you.  I became SO angry when I too was diagnosed with Bipolar disorder.  I admittedly have attempted suicide several times, first visit to "the hospital for those who try this" was diagnosed with the same disorder.  ODDLY so was EVERYONE ELSE there!!   :evil: My suspicions got the better of me because that is when the effexor was yet AGAIN increased, AND was put on Lithium.  Understand THIS doctor diagnosed me with said "disorder".  After I was allowed out on "parole" LOL, I naturally had an immediate visit with MY shrink.  I had done plenty of research on bipolar while "in the slammer" and DID NOT fall into the criteria of bipolar!!  I questioned my shrink about this and he readily agreed that I was NOT bipolar BUT also knows that, THAT diagnosis is one that is NEVER questioned by insurance companies and they pay without hesitation!!! 
Hang in there!  See, what you are probably "thinking" is mania, is exactly what I wrote my sister about today!!  YES, believe it?  Get off that crap and you actually wake up and have energy and the world doesn't look so glum!  Today was my first day with new found pleasure!!  I TRULY doubt that its mania as I've NEVER had mania, before during or NOW!!  I think what it is, is we are FINALLY coming out of the fog, and YES it feels good, although we've been "programed" that this newfound happiness could also be percieved as MANIA!!!  We all have the feeling of sadness, but as I said in another string on this site, I think the withdrawal is more from the doctor that has "controlled" us and our thinking pattern (that programing again) to the point of possibly feeling guilty that we are finally making a stand and thinking on our own, and for the first time in a LONG time, actually listening to our own bodies!!  Those docs will be the FIRST to try and bust the bubble!!  I'm in this for the long haul, and taking my happiness as JUST that!  My down moods, well we ALL have them even in a perfect world!!  One day at a time and step by step we will ALL get there.  We are very lucky to have this board to support each other, as I too isolated and internalized all my feelings.  We need to be here to keep each other out of the ruts!![/b]


Always remember the hardships we endure on this earth are rewarded 10 fold in heaven.

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#6 2003-11-23 06:19:21

cathy collins
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There I have no experience with this horrid drug, but your pain is palpable. I have to wonder if there needs to be a nation wide push on our Attorney Generals to file criminal charges on these physicians who are causing so much harm while they profit. I realize these doctors are well connected and have deep pockets even some that reach the FDA from some stuff I have been reading lately. I wonder if maybe instead of just a hearing in Washington in February, perhaps these doctors and experts should be helping injured persons and their families organize in class action suits using criminal intent. It seems to me if a doctor knowly prescribes drugs known to cause deadly and near deadly harm this is criminal. I think this issue is even more important than the Medicare issue, that is passed will only ensure more government dollars  will go into their pockets. What is going on in"Healthcare" certainly rivals the whole tire recall. Am I wrong? Cathy

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#7 2003-11-23 06:50:37

newlife
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

[b][color=blue][/color]Cathy,
Actually you are quite right.  I was just livid when the "market" and "doctors" realized how much money was being made on vitamins, minerals and the such and made a push for all that to become a "controlled substance".  Fortunately, they were not successful, although if they are bold enough to openly push for such a move...indeed the pockets are deep.
The entire medical organization, in my humble opinion, is nothing more that an open "black market".  They get us addicted to these drugs, continue to convince us that we will meet our ultimate demise, loose our family, job, etc. if we do not comply with the requirements of these medications.  Being desperate enough to GO to these doctors to start with, will literally do or take anything they tell us to, with the promise that things will get better.
Well, I have lost everything I had to loose so not only was HE WRONG, I have nothing else but my very life to loose at this point.  THAT is why I finally decided NO MORE!!  I lost my marriage (but had he truly loved me he would have stayed and struggled with me) my job is dangling on a spider web and that will be 14 years down the drain, my daughter won't let her son around me because of the suicide attempts...so as I said, getting away from the doctor and medication is my last hope.
A class action is exactly what needs to be done.  Make it terribly high profile.  We would need to understand, going in though...it would be dragged out for so long WE would never reap any of the benefits of a settlement.  Although, possibly our children would, plus we would be bringing this poison to the forefront and warn others. 
I sat and pondered the other day how our communities can spend thousands of dollars for FREE methadone treatments for those individuals addicted to "street drugs" but NOTHING for folks like us.  The system allows our continued poisoning.  Why?  Money.   :evil: Grrrr.  Just like preventative medications.  Insurance will REFUSE to pay for smoking sesation programs, but if the patient is diagnosed with lung cancer, they pay the entire (or in most cases) medical bills associated with meager attempts of curing that individual.  Again, why? $$$$$$$  The whole system stands to make so much more money on the ill person that the one that circumvents the illness by alternative methods.  Oh this makes me so angry.  Yet, as an ill person we get to a point of such despiration we will do anything we are told to.  Somewhat being like the lamb being led to the ultimate slaughter!
Yes, Cathy you too have seen the truth.[/b]


Always remember the hardships we endure on this earth are rewarded 10 fold in heaven.

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#8 2003-11-23 06:58:09

newlife
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

[b]Oh, I forgot to mention; regarding holding the doctors liable...unfortunately it would be up to us to prove that they had prior knowledge that these drugs would actually cause the "adverse" side effects for each patient.  They are well protected.  Not to mention, in the courts, "knowingly" is only one leg of the criminal element...the other is "intentionally" and that is where (like the prior knowledge) the burden of proof is actually on the acuser (us) 
We would have to prove that not only did our doctors have prior knowledge that this medication would harm us (on a one on one basis) plus it would be our burden to prove that knowing that it WOULD harm us, they INTENTIONALLY and KNOWINGLY prescribed it anyway.  I could articulate this if necessary in my case, but it would not be easy for a lot of others.  Thats why doing this as class action would be the only way to build headway for us victims.[/b]


Always remember the hardships we endure on this earth are rewarded 10 fold in heaven.

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#9 2003-12-06 09:19:58

Walter
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Registered: 2003-12-06
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hello, I have been going through the same withdraws for three weeks now. They are very hard at times, it has interfeared with work and my home life. I came off slowly a 2 weeks stepdown pak the cold now for 3 weeks. I am still getting the tremmors & hot flashes. My doctor acts like it is no big deal and the will soon stop...But now more than a month and I amstill experiencing these symtoms. The is a drug made by the Devil himself :evil: I have no doubt. Stay strong!!!

Walter

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#10 2003-12-08 08:31:16

Butterfly
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Registered: 2003-10-22
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Thanks to everyone who has posted me replies - although it doesnt do us any good, it helps to know that there are others out there suffering the same as us.

I am now on depkote and have just had to increase my dose to 1000mg a day along with another anti depressant as these are no longer working the same as when I first started to take them.

All I want to do is come off all medication and lead a normal life - is that too much to ask!!!  Is there anyone out there who has managed to come off their meds and maybe transfer to something non addictive, say holistic medication or anything that will help the severity of these depressions.  Every day I dread waking up to have to go another 24 hours feeling crap.  All I want is to look forward to what life I have left and not this day after day.

Surely someone out there must have a normal life even though they suffer with depression.  I will try anything.

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#11 2003-12-08 08:44:56

Quinn
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From: Gilbert, AZ
Registered: 2003-11-16
Posts: 30

Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There!
I found a site www.fda.gov/medwatch. On that site you can file your own complaints about medication. I don't expect a miracle, but I was thinking that with all the talking we are all doing if we the consumers were to flood Washington, D.C. with our problems perhaps this would help Dr. Tracy and the others who will be testifying in Washington in February. We the people need to get serious. I think a grassroots movement could work. We could maybe even get our congressmen involved. From what I see and read it would seem that we the innocent people are being swallowed alive by multiple well funded business entities. Call me a "Pollyana", but I still believe change can happen we do not need to be a nation of victims.  Cathy

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#12 2003-12-08 11:13:42

Butterfly
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi Cathy, or should I say "Pollyana",

I will have a look on the site you suggest but before doing so can you tell me what is happening in Washington.  I am from the UK so I am unaware of Dr. Tracy and the testifying which is going on in February in Washington.  I would appreciate all the info you can give me as I seem to be on my own here in the UK or so it seems as most posts seem to come from the US.  I await your reply.  Many thanks.

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#13 2004-01-05 07:32:45

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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There.  I have just recently been weaned off Effexor.  What an horrible time that was.  Let me give you a little backround on myself.  I am a strong indivudial who worked 80 hrs a week and have a teenager and husband.  I had some serious issues with both, and in turn I developed some anxiety.  The anxiety wouldn't allow me to sleep.  I went a whole week with just 6 hours of sleep.  Needless to say I was not fun to be around.  I went to my doctor to have a work up done to see if maybe I was going thru menopause.  I had a hystorecomy about a year prior.  So that was a possiblity.  Come to find out everything was fine.  So my doctor told me about this wonderful medication called Effexor.  I was told that there were virtually no side effects with this DRUG.  I gained over 50 pounds, and became very depressed.  In the mean time there would be times that I couldn't remember if I had taken the pretty little pink capsule.  So I wouldn't take it.  Well the next day when I would take it I would have electrial pulses driving thru my body.  That is such a horrible feeling.  I then went to a phyciatrist and was told just how bad this medication is.  It's highly addictive, makes you gain weight and so on.  She told me that we were going to slowly take me off the effexor and start on Lexapor.  Well I wasn't getting enough of something.  I was getting worse than before I was put on effexor.  I call her and she then put me on wellbutrin also.  Needless, to say being so over whelmed and not being able to function I tried to kill myself.  I spent 10 wonderful days in a metal health hospital.  I'm no off the effexor complete, but am upset that I got to the point I did.  I still have bouts of anxiety and we are working to correct this as well.

Butterfly, just wanted to let you know that you're not alone.

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#14 2004-01-16 10:48:24

Debra
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

I'm glad to have found this site. At least now I know I'm not the only one who has been adversely affected by Effexor.  This may end up being rambling but most of the time, since having been on Effexor, my brain seems kind of jumbled.
A little over a year ago at an appointment with my GP I told him I was feeling pretty depressed and that the 20 mg of Prozac I was on didn't seem to be working any longer. [i]Regression: I had been on Prozac for years, sometimes needing a higher dosage than other times. My previous doctor understood this and would up the dose to as high as 60 mg per day for a couple of months until I could go back down to a lower dosage. Due to insurance costs, etc. I had to change doctors.[/i] My new doctor didn't offer to increase the Prozac dosage but instead prescribed EffexorXR, quickly titering up to 150mg per day. (My son, who had a couple of friends who had suffered all the side effects of Effexor threw a fit and told me not to take it. Said "It's a horrible drug and very addictive!) After about 6 months I told my doctor the Effexor didn't seem to be making me feel any better and he upped the dose to 300mg per day. 
In October I decided maybe I needed to see a therapist because I didn't seem to be feeling any better. After a referral to a psychiatrist for med management I am off the Effexor but still living with the side effects.
I have been diagnosed with Meniere's disease since starting the Effexor, is it truly Meniere's or is it a side effect of the Effexor? I have the brain zaps that people speak of, the dizziness and another side effect that I haven't seen a lot of in that I have spasms and jerking of my extremities and sometimes my whole body. I can just be sitting or lying somewhere and all of a sudden my whole body jerks!  I have been off the Effexor for a month now but I am still having all of these symptoms. How long do they last? Or is this something I am now going to have to live with the rest of my life.
Another, even worse, side effect for me has been a debilitating depression and anxiety/panic attacks. I've fought depression for many many years but never have I been at as low a point as I got on this medication! I haven't worked in over a month. Can barely go out in public anymore.  I am at a point where I am going on disability from work. It's embarassing and I feel even worse than ever! I can't work, what must people think of me? I feel so guilty!
Anyway, I hate what this drug has done to me and I know of others that have had the same problems, some more so and some less so. Is, will there be a class action suit against Wyeth for this or does it truly work well for many people?
Thanks for taking the time to listen to me ramble
Deb

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#15 2004-01-16 18:43:31

Butterfly
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Registered: 2003-10-22
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi Deb, sorry to hear that you are feeling crap but please dont feel guilty that you are unable to work.  I have hardly worked at all in 6 years due to my severe depression but you have to focus on getting well first as the guilt will just eat you up alive.  I have now been completely off effexor for 3 months but although the depression is still as severe as ever, the side effects are getting better - just hang on in there.  I sincerely hope that there will be a class action against the pharmaceutical company as nobody should have to endure the endless suffering that this medication causes.   Keep hanging on in there.

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#16 2004-01-17 11:23:35

Debra
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Thank you for your kind response Butterfly. I had a horrible day yesterday, spent most of the day crying. So far today it has been better. Two of my sisters came over and dragged me out for breakfast. I made it without falling in a heap, so that was a plus for today.
I am home now and am ready for a long nap. Looking forward to being normal again even though I don't know for sure what that is anymore. wink
One day at a time is my motto for right now.
Thanks again Butterfly

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#17 2004-01-18 05:24:53

Butterfly
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Registered: 2003-10-22
Posts: 6

Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi Deb,  Glad to hear that you have had a better day today - make the most of the good days and try not to get too disheartened when you dont feel so good.  I also spend half of my time in tears and feeling so low that I dont even want to go out of the house.  You are extremely lucky that you have 2 sisters who seem to be on your side so take my advice, if it is at all possible, when they offer to take you out, go, I know it is not easy when you are tearful and have no motivation, but sometimes it can make you feel just a bit better even if it is only for half an hour in a day - half an hour of feeling "relatively normal" is better than nothing.    My boyfriend of 11 years and I have just split up - I am not sure whether it was my depression that made me feel that the relationship wasnt right or whether I just hung in there because it felt "safe" when I was out of control, but now I am totally on my own and wish I hadnt made this lifechanging decision.  What I really mean is dont drive your friends and family away - you need them more than ever.

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#18 2004-01-18 05:57:01

cathy collins
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Registered: 2003-10-24
Posts: 20

Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There Everyone!
                   I am a nurse who has worked on the fringe of medicine since 1982. Quite honestly I found hospitals  dangerous places to work. There are a lot of people who can turn their heads when they see people's lives going in the toilet. I am not one of these people. In my work I try and help people learn how to talk to their practitioners. How to get the answers they need. If I had the resources I would be a full time  patient advocate. I have found what hospitals call patient advocates as people who try and do damage control. I am not a nurse specialist, but from what I have learned trying to help my Mom would turn one's hair snow white. The literature is out there. These physicians know or should know the lethal problems caused by all these drugs. Channel 5 WCVB in Boston did a terrific piece on their Chronicle Program - The Emporer and His Drugs. Then there is a person who wrtes in a lot named Quinn who  has a great deal of info. February 4th I believe there are hearings scheduled in Washington D.C. about this very matter. Many of these drugs have already been restricted in Europe and other countires. American people it would seem are being used as lab animals. We need to start pressuring our government to take control. I have written my Attorney General and asked or crimminals charges against the physician who had put my Mom on Anafinal and Prozac. My complaint was referred to the abuse division. I thought surely that they would be interested because that combination causes a deadly SSRI Syndrome. I have filed a complaint with the FDA and will file charges with the state board. It is a long process and I have writtened more letter than I care to think about. Last year it consumed a lot of my time. Every patient needs an advocate. It is not enough to wait and think if they harm me I will get an attorney because if you don't have a prescribed complaint no one will represent you unless you have billions of dollars. These doctors don't worry because they know they are untouchable and if something happens and they fall  through the cracks what ever  group they work for will bail them out and there pockets are deep. Prepaid healthcare has made this possible and made patients powerless. This is an election year and I have been busy writing. I think we need to see some of these doctors being measured for orange jumpsuits to get their attention. I somehow think that in the prision system they might be as popular as child abusers and rapist. Get writing! Cathy

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#19 2004-01-19 17:01:42

Quinn
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From: Gilbert, AZ
Registered: 2003-11-16
Posts: 30

Re: Effexor Withdrawal

The best reference on drug research is Dr. Ann Tracy, PhD  She has a great book that is full of  A LOT of details.  If you are interested I recommend you by Prozac, Panacea or Pandora?  It talks about a whole line of drugs beginning with LSD and Cocaine of which Prozac is worse than these illegal drugs.  Scary, huh?  You can only order this book @
1-800-280-0730 
She has set up a great website, which contains documents on how to file a complaint and a lot of research that has been done.   Refer to... www.drugawareness.org

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#20 2004-04-16 15:04:13

tlux
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Registered: 2004-04-16
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

I posted a reply on the other feed as well.  I am a veteran Effexor user who has been unable to wean off due to the side effects.  Does anyone know if there has been a lawsuit filed against the pharmaceutical company?  There sure needs to be!  It sounds like a lot of lives, including mine, have been ruined by this drug.

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#21 2004-04-17 17:39:26

cathy collins
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There!
              I am not having much luck staying on line tonight, but here goes. Thank you for the e-mail. I am not sure about law suits, but check Parker & Waichman's site. If that fails just go on line for Effexor suits. There has got to be something. Myself I am giving up the battle after 10 years of battling healthcare. There is little more than a shred of integrity in the whole system. I am not some wacko. I have documented and documented. I have written to the MA Department of Public Health, MA Board of Registration for Physicians, MA Attorney General. Essentially physicians have a licenses to kill with their mighty prescription pads. I have enen filled complaints with the FDA. I am tired. Hell I even contacted those TV attorneys figuring that approaching from a legal angle might get someone's attention, but no interest. The suits are a funny thing essentially if 500 or so persons have the same side effect like sucide then an attorney might listen, but other wise you are out of luck. I have had the good fortune not to have ever used any of the poisons, but unfortunately I was raised in a house by a woman who spent the first half of her life on Amphetamines ( compliments of a doctors prescription) and the second half on Benzodiazepines ( again compliments of a doctor). What I am saying is I was raised alone in the pits of hell. Unfortunately when you come from an upper crust family the problems that occur are referred to as a medical problem, an ailment of one organ or another.  I can't write another letter. It is not in me. Effexor is nothing more than one of those speed type drugs. It interfers with normal brain functioning, but fattens the pocket books of the physicians who write the scripts. I wish you well and will pray for you for an improved out come. Good Luck. Cathy

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#22 2004-05-04 08:00:07

PPD2
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

I am definitely looking for any kind of lawsuit against Wyeth for still marketing this drug Effexor.  This is horrible.  I need to wean, but am already having severe withdrawal symptoms after just increasing the length of time between doses (from 24 to 26 hours).   Help me anyone, please!  How can we make this company stop putting this drug out there?

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#23 2004-05-04 16:02:41

cathy collins
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi There!
             I am rarely on-line these days in pursuit of justice.  I give up. I have not been poisoned by any of these chemicals, but I have lived through the horror of living with a Mother who trusted the criminals who wrote the scripts for some of these poisons. I have nicely delt with doctors for more than 30 years mistakenly thinking my mother had suffered from some type of unpreventable illness. It has only been over the last  2 or 3 years I have come to understand it was not illness, but chemical poisoning by legal drugs which have caused all the hell that I have lived through. I documented . I wrote to doctors, hospitals, to FDA, to my state's Attoney General, Board of Registration, my State's Department of Public Health, an attorney recommended by my Mother's personal attorney, TV malpractice attorneys, on-line malpractice attorneys. I think these drug companies and the doctors who push their drugs are simply untouchable. Medicine is not about promoting wellness, but illness, so they have a steady supply of clients. I don't mean to sound so negative. I never thought I would be saying such things. I never for once thought that change was not possible. It is a sad reality to reach. Contact Ann Tracy's site. Use the pearls offered there to help get yourself well. That is the best you can do. I would recommend keeping a diary of all medications you have taken dates and dosages and prescriber. Keep an eye out for class action suits. That is the only chance you might have of getting money, but  don't hold your breath.  Take care of yourself, you are what is important. cathy

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#24 2005-01-16 00:57:23

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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Hi Cathy,

I've been doing a lot of research on Effexor(XR) since I stopped taking it in September, and you just got me thinking about something that hit pretty close to home.  E was originally prescibed to me by a family practice doc., my friend's brother, cause I didn't have a doctor of my own, after I hurt my back.  He had also prescribed Vicodin for pain at that time.  Because I was a court reporter, I had a private disability policy that I purchased...which is why I have my own medical records now.  This doctor had said that I was not disabled sometime later down the line.  I was never depressed.

I read in my records yesterday that after he prescribed Effexor (three years ago) I complained of headaches, nausea, vomiting, dizziness, insomnia.  He prescribed valium and switched my pain medication to Oxycontin, which I stopped taking around six months later because I had started to complain of extreme fatigue and severe pain.  This was in 2001.  It wasn't until late last year that I found out that the combination of morphine and valium is used to encourage death in hospice care.

My body had already reacted badly -- on record -- to the EffexorXR, but he didn't stop me from taking it, and I was wondering why I felt as though I were dying. At this point my blood pressure was running around 90/60, and my total cholesterol was 100...I felt like I was fainting much of the day.  I wasn't able to teach gym classes anymore, and I could no longer work yet my disability claim was denied. I was in extreme pain, and the impression given was that I was simply using drugs, though they couldn't find any place that I was getting them from, and their week-long surveillance turned up nothing but trips to the grocery store and the chiropractor.

To lose a few pounds I innocently decided to stop taking Effexor in September...and learned the rest the hard way.  I've tried to help others that are now finding out that it isn't easy to stop taking Effexor since then on the dr.bob.org website and through my personal email, but my body isn't the same as it once was, and I keep hoping that it will heal completely.  I'm going to start physical therapy on Monday to see if that can help with my neck and back pain, though I'm in the middle of moving.

I was not that long ago extremely healthy with a little bit of arthritis/bursitis in my back and hips.  Sciatica made it a problem to sit for long periods of time, and I assumed that after a couple of years -- as I was told by the orthopedic doctors that I saw -- the nerve would no longer be impinged, that that is just the way the body worked.  Instead, I've had a horrible three years filled with debilitating  paing, fatigue and now stomach and nerve damage.  So many people reviewed those records, yet no one saw what is glaring in my eyes.  The original treating physician not only should have taken me off of Effexor immediately, but he nearly killed me by prescribing a combination of Oxycontin, Valium, and EffexorXR, which I was allergic to.  I still have whatever you call those little shock-like things all over my body unless I take at least  two or three of Benadryl a day.  The triple whammy may have truly damaged my body. 

I'm not sure now what it was that you said that triggered my thought...but it was something  smile
At least now I know why I feel the way that I do....


Bebe

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#25 2005-02-07 16:15:48

mardele atchison
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Re: Effexor Withdrawal

Wow I can't believe all the side effects of this drug.  Will somebody tell me the best way to come off effexor, and what do I expect for physical withdrawl.  I hate living like this.

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