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#1 2008-04-28 09:16:18

Marie
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Registered: 2003-02-21
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Address verification for common benefit refund

I just got a letter from the trust requesting address verification for the refund of common benefit fees.

If there's pro se matrix people out there reading this who have moved and not provided for a change of address, you need to MAKE SURE you notify the Trust with the new address.  Obviously, if they don't have your new address and if by chance, the post office doesn't have a forwarding address for you, you won't even recieve this letter telling you that if you don't call 1-800-386-2070 to confirm and/or provide more current address information there will be no further processing of your refund claim. You must call to verify even if the address they have is the correct one.

Also, this letter confirms that the Common Benefit Percentage for the original trust is 6.3947%.

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#2 2008-04-28 10:59:54

MAC1
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Registered: 2008-01-29
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Marie,
I am in the 7th and will be getting a Matrix payment soon.
If the common benefit fees are to be deducted out of the attroneys amounts,
and the check is made to us both for only one amount,  how do I know the attorney will pay me the correct amount after he deducts the 40%.  Should he only deduct 33.8%. Thanks

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#3 2008-04-28 12:14:43

Marie
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

The common benefit fee (6.4% for the 7th) will already have been deducted by the 7th fund administrator before your attorney even recieves the check. I'm assuming when you say you're in the 7th and soon to recieve a matrix check that you're talking about your share of the 7th fund rather than matrix compensation from the original trust as as progression during pendency claim???  Anyway, your attorney should not be taking any more than 33.6%, assuming he is charging you a 40% contingent fee, from the amount of the check recieved on your behalf from the 7th...and proportionately less if the contingent fee you agreed to pay was something less than 40%.

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#4 2008-04-28 12:41:32

MAC1
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Marie,
I am in the 7th fund, and he took 40% out of the first payment, I will be sure that
he reimburses me for it and does not take more then 33.6% out of the final.
Hopefully he will be fair and do the right thing, it makes me nervous because
they will write me a check from the one sent to them, I will be sure before I sign
it, that they are only taking 33.6% from it.
Thanks for your help, I hope eveyone knows this because it could be a way that
the attorneys could make an extra 6.4%.

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#5 2008-04-28 12:59:39

Marie
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

MAC,
Your attorney was ALLOWED to take the full 40% out of the interim payment because there were no common benefit fees deducted from that payment.  You can ask for a refund, but it's doubtful you'll recieve one. The 7th agreement allowed them to do it and that's the way it's written into the agreement.  After all, it was written by attorneys.  It would be wonderful for all of you if they made adjustments, but I think people are going to find that's not the way it's going to work out.  The only people who get any benefit from these common benefit adjustments are pro ses and the private attorneys themselves...they will get to keep an additional 2.6%. The final payment, unlike the interim payment, has common benefit fees taken directly from it and that's why the attorneys are restricted in taking the full 40%...but that restriction applies ONLY to final payments. I'm about as certain as I can be (and I would love to be wrong on this one) that you still have to pay a total of 40% out of each payment regardless of what the common benefit fee ended up being and even if there ended up being no common benefit fee at all. That's how they arranged it.

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#6 2008-04-28 13:04:00

Elsie
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Registered: 2007-01-30
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Ok. now I am totally confused.  I signed for my attorney to get 40%. In the first 7th distribution he took 40% plus some expenses (which he said was to be the total expenses in entirety and no more would be charged in the final distribution.). So, what is the deal with them only taking 33.6%. That doesn't apply, does it,  if we agreed to 40% on the original contract with the attorney?  I thought this common benefit was embedded in the contract with each individual client/attorney agreement.

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#7 2008-04-28 13:10:35

Marie
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

ELSIE, you were typing while I was responding to MAC. Read my response to him. The 40% plus cost was exactly what your attorney was allowed to take from an interim payment because no common benefit fees were taken from the interim distributions Yes, the 33.6% applies to the final check even though you agreed to pay 40%. You're still paying 40%...6.4% common benenfit fee plus 33.6% to your attorney = 40%.

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#8 2008-04-28 13:21:33

Elsie
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Registered: 2007-01-30
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Thanks for explaining. That is how I understood it before today.

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#9 2008-04-28 17:43:38

daisy
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Registered: 2006-09-05
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

I got a letter for address verification today, too.

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#10 2008-04-28 21:09:12

malikee
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

My lawyer said that they took the 40 percent on the first payout because they didnt know what the common benefit fee was going to be.

On this payment he deducted the total amount from his fee which reimbursed me for the common benefit fee on the first distribution and he said that no they were not allowed to keep 40 percent on the first after they knew the common benefit fee amount.

I am paying the flat 40 percent on the total recovery just as the 7th states. Total recovery means all of the money.

Why would we have to pay 46 percent just because they sent out a little of the money early doesnt make sense.

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#11 2008-04-28 21:45:45

psychnursenm
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Registered: 2008-03-18
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

I did not get a letter today. I hope I get one tomorrow... I finally found my paperwork from last year (well, finally LOOKED at it..) and remembered correctly that the law firm had me sign a Power of Attorney so that they could deposit the entire check into their trust account. "Once the check has cleared, we will forward a trust account check to you in the net amount as indicated in the closing statement."   Hummmm..did my attorneys get the interest for 5 (or 10, I can't remember) on the whole amount and only give me my origional 40%  ?  Can I do something to obtain some of the interest they make off of this next payment?  Or any way I can avoid the delay and not have the law firm make any more $$ off of my injuries? Thanks in advance.

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#12 2008-04-29 07:01:26

Marie
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

"I am paying the flat 40 percent on the total recovery just as the 7th states. Total recovery means all of the money.

Why would we have to pay 46 percent just because they sent out a little of the money early doesnt make sense"

MALIKEE,
Nobody is having 46% deducted. That's what I thought  too way back when we all originally discussed this, but long since then I've sat down and actually done the math.   Regardless of how it's being done, it comes out to be just about the same either way.  If you figure it out correctly the other way, you'll see that it's about the same. I don't really understand what "adjustment" you think your attorney is making for you on the interim distribution, but others shouldn't expect any kind of  similar "adjustment" from there's. You said yourself, you're paying a total of 40% on the whole amount, so if a maxiumum of 40% is what's being deducted, then there is nothing to adjust, is there??

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#13 2008-04-29 09:19:48

djkb4559
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Registered: 2007-05-10
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Where is it written that the adjusted point value changed?  It started out as 9925.00 and is now 11960.00 per point isn't it?  But what court document is that in?  And wasn't the first interim payments on the lower point value? thanks to anyone who can help me on this one!

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#14 2008-04-29 09:25:34

casey
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Registered: 2003-02-21
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Djkb4559,
The adjusted point value hasn't changed.  What is being discussed here is the common benefit fee which is something completely different.


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#15 2008-04-29 09:43:21

mthore43
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Registered: 2007-05-21
Posts: 121

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Bottom line here folks is unless you are Pro Se or have a different arrangement with your Lawyer you'll receive 60 % of the balance due after 6.4 and 33.6 have been deducted.

End of story, someone turn out the lights on your way out!

Cheers.
Thore

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#16 2008-04-29 11:42:45

djkb4559
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Registered: 2007-05-10
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

thanks guys but the answer hasn't been given - where in the AHP documents can i find the point value stated.  And yes i know casey that the item being discussed is atty fees 40% versus 6.4 + 33.6 but didn't want to go to another page when you all are obviously here today!!  JTAR do you know where this change was stated in any docs??

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#17 2008-04-29 12:10:54

chenrichse
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Registered: 2004-02-08
Posts: 139

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

You can go to the 7thamendment website and find the new point value, it is in the last documents that the Pro Se claimants were sent.  I found it on the website also.

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#18 2008-04-29 13:08:43

Elsie
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Registered: 2007-01-30
Posts: 69

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

It would be very helpful if people would put the actual URL when mentioning a web site.  For example,   
http://www.7thamendmentdietdrugs.com/news/
or
http://www.7thamendmentdietdrugs.com/news/articles/category-1-final-payment-order.pdf

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#19 2008-04-29 13:21:17

djkb4559
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Elsie big_smile thanks

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#20 2008-04-29 13:35:22

Marie
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Registered: 2003-02-21
Posts: 2419

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

djkb4559,
The 11,960 figure came from a declaration and report filed by the 7th fund administrator in support of the motion to make the final distribution. It was filed with the court back somewtime towards the end of January. I don't think that particular report is available for linking to on the net except through the PACER service which is where I got it from. If you'd like me to send you a copy, provide me with an e-mail addy that I can send it to (just use the private message function on this forum) and I'll send it to you. It's on page 24.

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#21 2008-04-29 13:37:06

Marie
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Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Bottom line here folks is unless you are Pro Se or have a different arrangement with your Lawyer you'll receive 60 % of the balance due after 6.4 and 33.6 have been deducted.

End of story, someone turn out the lights on your way out!

Cheers.
Thore

Your bottom line is correct, Thore.  I'm clicking my light off on that subject right now!

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#22 2008-04-29 13:49:20

Marie
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Registered: 2003-02-21
Posts: 2419

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

psychnursenm,
Unless you recieved a matrix payment from the original trust and DON'T have a private attorney, you won't be getting that letter. The only claimants that get the common benefit refund checks are those that already recieved Matrix compensation and have no attorney, so they're the only ones that recieve that letter.

Regarding the other issue about concerns regarding your attorney getting to keep the interest on your money while it's in his trust account - I really wouldn't waste the energy worrying about it as long as he gives you your money in a reasonable amount of time, say 7 to 10 days or so. Too much beyond that though, such as extending up to a month or more, then I'd say that would be an issue that he would deserve being confronted about.

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#23 2008-04-29 13:58:17

djkb4559
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Registered: 2007-05-10
Posts: 6

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

as to an attorney keeping interest on a trust - In Iowa that interest is paid to the state by the bank the account is in. The attorney can't "keep" that money at all.  I don't know how other states do it but maybe the trust account doesn't gain interest???

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#24 2008-04-29 17:39:21

curtis91
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Registered: 2004-11-13
Posts: 79

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Hello, everyone...... Just dropped in to see whats happening.........   So happy to see most of you deserving claimants will be getting paid soon...................


I have one coment though..................I have been paid........ and the bottom line is.....................................................................................................................


my  Lawyer's took 45% out of my check + fees..... and left me with 55%.  So instead
of the 33.6% they deserve...............  They will end up with almost 39% after they get
back the common benefit fee.............  So where does this 60% for everyone come in?

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#25 2008-04-29 18:27:51

djaewilark
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Registered: 2007-09-19
Posts: 92

Re: Address verification for common benefit refund

Did you initially agree to 45% and you  are saying you have been paid are you talking about the interim payment?are we talking about the 7th amendment or what?Being as you mentioned the common benefit fee I am presuming the 7th.If that is correct then the CC fees come out of their percentage.I have not heard of anyone's attorney charging 45%,but if you were aware of that at the onset of this then that is what they will get.I guess the 60% is for those who have a 60/40 agreement My attorneys  have  33 1/3%  of the recovery I feel that is fair,the CC fees come out of their part not mine.

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